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Wednesday, January 23, 2008

RESPONSE TO GOTAB KALENJIN!



First i must say its unfortunate that someone of your
calibre can use the web to spread hatred. You are not
in any way helping the situation.

Actually i now quite agree there should be majimbo or
whatever you call it.

Let the Kamatusa take the land that they've sold to
kikuyus and we see how much you can get from it. As
the saying goes you can take a donkey to a river but
cannot force it to drink water. I say you can give the
Kalenjins land but cannot force them to farm. Some of
those people willingly rent or sell their land to
kiuks or any other willing buyer.

The perception that kiuks get things for free is
stupid and ignorant. Everyone regardless of tribe has
to work hard. Let me give you a typical example. Iam a
kiuk born and raised in Nairobi i rent land in both
Narok and Eldoret. The people leasing this land to me
are Maasai and Nandi and this year i doscontinued the
contract and have so far received calls from them
asking if i was still interested. I invest my sweat in
the stock market and thats how i make my money. I
sweat, sweat and sweat some more despite the fact that
i have a high flying job with an international body.

In Kenya we all need each other especially the younger
generation who are not entirely dependent on land.

What you need to do is educate yourself more on how
kiuks operate. Dont be so engulfed in hatred that you
forget you have to put food on the table, educate your
kids and have basic things like shelter

I totally agree the election was flawed and fell short
of expectations but that doesnt give anyone a right to
kill and maim innocent human beings.

One question i want to ask you is what the children
who were burnt in church got to do with the sins of
kibaki.

Please do not forget that kiuks are not cowards and
they too fought a serious mau mau war that drove the
britons out of Kenya.If you want war you must be
prepared for the consequncies. I have seen war when i
worked in DR Congo for five years and it doenst favour
anyone.

Lastly you have a moral obligation to your maker if
you believe in one

Lets preach peace starting with our own kinsmen. Given
a chance i would tell Kibaki to step down and let
others rule.

Pauline Ngugi via email

Related story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7161109.stm

RESPONSE FROM ALEX MATHERI:
Gerald,

I hate writing emails, in fact I am loathe to writing emails but some things have to be said and some records kept straight. Just in case you haven't noticed, let me tell you a short story about my family:

My nephew was killed under the pretext that he was a gangster, in fact a hold-up sort of gangster. He was not. Simon was a talented and brilliant young man, just like you but he also worked for the government as an assassin. Some deals went wrong and he was a hunted man. He was killed in cold blood and you all called him a thief.

I don't know where you live; really don't care but I will find you. And I will make you regret ever putting that post on the web. He was betrayed by Kalenjin colleagues and I will take my revenge.

Mr. Matheri

Via email

ANOTHER RESPONSE FROM SUSAN WACHU:

I have read your post with a lot of sadness, no let me start again,
with a lot of rage and disgust for two main reason.

One you are advocating for war when you are so far away in
STATES!!!!!!!!!! why pray brother don't you come to kenya and experience the real
thing that you dnt smell and hear and feel, seated so far away in
comfort, security, you are well fed and warm and safe, you only watch CNN,
BBC and whatever you else you use to catch up on "things back home"
where you are there is no smell of blood, smell of death, burning bodies,
teargas,you don't feel the tension, anxiety and fear of been holed up in
the "safe neighbourhood" moving round from one room to another for
4,5, 6days and worse see kids hungry, dejected, appaled,freezing out in
the cold and yes BOTH kikuyu and kalenjin and luos it does not matter and
why? because the battle know no boundaries and it is ordinary people
who have no quarell with Kibaki, Raila or Ruto who are dying en masse.

Second it fails me, how you can invoke God-however you perceive him to
be-and yet call on the murder, revenge and destruction of others who
were made in his image...

Lemmie tell you something Gerald the blood that has been shed on this
country since 27th is and will be on your hands (and your family) and
other of your ilk irregardless of colour, age, creed, religion, or
political persuasion, you have manipulated and propagated your hatred on the
masses and though i do not purport to be judge and jury have caused
"little" ones to sin.For this you will not be forgiven for that same Kale,
Kikuyu, Luo, Luhya blood that has been poured as a DIRECT result of
such hate mail CONSTANTLY cries out to be avenged.

You truly sadden me, there are no words, English, Swahili, Kalenjin or
Kikuyu that can describe the grief you have caused. If i were God and i
am not, i would never ever forgive you and your chosen son.But we are
compelled by Christ love to forgive you.

So yes, go ahead and invoke your curse on me,and say your prayer
against all that grieved you to rain fire and brimestone but know for a fact
" He who watches over us as KENYANS never slumbers nor sleeps.

Whatever you do please do not call your self a loyal patriot or invoke
the name of God.i am truly embarassed beyond human endurance.

Via email.

RESPONSE FROM KDPM TO BOTH EMAILS:

KDPM has a basic responsibility to help strengthen and support democratic processes in Kenya and Africa . Although democracy in Kenya is a subjective concept, hard to define, arguments have been made for and against certain crucial issues. KDPM is trying hard to act as a people’s watchdog, as a gatekeeper and an instrument to disseminate necessary information, and more popularly, as a reflection of varied cultural paradigms, interests and trends. As usual, each idea, activity, event etc is interpreted differently by each individual and ethnic group in Kenya . Thus we appreciate all kinds of opinions and “facts” from all Kenyans. They all help to get us to the root-cause of our challenges. Then from there we work together to come up with the right prescription for the whole country.

I have posted your views on our blog.

Thanks a lot.

S Rogers
Secretary-KDPM

Here is another email from Mtu Wa Kweli:

Kikuyus are now just suffering because of the sins committed by Kenyatta and other older Kikuyu crooks. When the British settlers left, Kenyatta took it upon himself to allocate free land to his fellow kikuyus and neglecting other tribes. People like Moi happened to be lucky as they were in political circles with Kenyatta. Basically the old mzee Jomo robbed land from the Kalenjin. Unfortunately Kenyatta's day in court has come when he is dead but his people are suffering the consequences.

Furthermore Kikuyus' reputation for years has been nothing but robbing people, banks, mugging others, carjacking. Did they think that God would allow this disturbing behavior to continue? time is up Kikuyus change your ways and stop stealing and grabbing what does not belong to you, God is angry!

Via email

Another response:
Fellow Kenyans,

The much talked about Mungiki training and arming has been confirmed.
Uhuru has donated Ksh.4 million and Karume and other leaders have paid
for the training of Mungiki to attack Luos, Luhyas, Muslims, Maasai and Kalenjin
Communities. The plan is complete and its execution is soon.

From reliable sources, the plan is to retaliate the mayhem that was
witnessed in the post-election violence where Kikuyu community was
targeted by these tribes. It is said that the attacks will start slowly
in Nairobi as mere criminal gang but will intensify with time. A number
of Mungiki members have been provided by police uniforms and will knock
doors at night. Areas mostly targeted are Mathare, Dandora, Umoja,
Kayole, Embakazi, Dagoreti and Kibera. and Police will be slow in
response and ways have been crafted to show that police have been
overwhelmed. In the streets mungiki members will be planted among police
officers with sole responsibility to kill anybody who is protesting.

Kenyans of goodwill are required to condemn this plan for genocide and
please alert all Kenyans to be careful. This not just a propaganda it is
real and police, leaders, and the public should not remain silent. All
night travels should be reduced.

Concerned Citizen.
Kamau

Via email

Another response:
Alex & Pauline you both sound like you live on moon and others live on stars. The issues Gerald is trying to pass across are vital to the kenyans across all walks of life. Don't be petty and go tribal like most gema.
Kibaki's allies like Moi, Museveni Martha Karua, Noah Wekesa, Tuju , Mwenje, Waititwa Ferdinand, Kalonzo, Kilonzo Mutula ,Michuki, Maina Kamanda,Njenga Karume to name but afew are the ones misadvising him and the spirits of dead KEnyans should haunt him& them not Gerald. Gerald is a democrat who sees what is happening and comes out clearly without biaseness. Of course he is human and bound to act humane.
Now when Alex you claim you know who killed Matheri at this time are you helping us? Go to the police and report the matter because you are well versed with the facts. Why do you fear the same gorvenment that you purport to have confidence in? Now that you have told the whole world you yearn to meet Gerald, our ears& eyes are a lert. I hope it won't be told to us in the same old phrase-He died out of a love triangle- for this is the phrase the kibaki goverment has been identified with-Shame on you Major Hussein Ali-I am a Gema fed up with Kibaki and his allies. You can see what he is lying at the Au summit and still insists that ODM goes to Court. We as KEnyans encourage you brother Gerald, let the whole world know who is who in Kenya. Let Pauline& Ale read Mutahi Ngunyi's article of 2003. I do paste it here for them so that they get a full dose of who Kibaki is.
Wairimu

Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi

While Cassandra foresaw the fall and destruction of the city of Troy (she warned the Trojans about the Trojan Horse, the death of Agamemnon and her own demise), she was unable to do anything to forestall these tragedies…No one believed her. They thought she was running mad.

And like Cassandra, 4 years ago, Nationmedia's Mutahi Ngunyi foresaw the events leading upto 2007 general elections and beyond. If only we would have listened…

Sunday Nation, Dec 2003
Why our second liberation is yet to be completed
By MUTAHI NGUNYI

This week I want to give a suggestion to President Mwai Kibaki: He should fire his speechwriter! If we lived in a "banana republic," these people would have actually been charged with sabotage. What they gave the President to read on Jamhuri Day was flat and shoddy. In fact, his speech on this day sounded like recycled material from the Madaraka Day and Kenyatta Day addresses. And what is worrying is that his speechwriters did not even seem to notice the repetitions. The question we should ask here is why?The answer to this is simple: Maybe they also slept through the speeches! The long and short of things is therefore that someone is being negligent.

Let us now turn to the fact that the President has finally put his portrait on our currency. In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, there would be nothing wrong if he put a family portrait on one of the currency notes.

What we must understand here is that President Kibaki is a human being. He has urges and excesses. To deny him some things is therefore ridiculous. It is like placing a pot full of honey in front of a little boy and expecting him not to dip his finger into the stuff! In other words, our new President is cuddling in the warmth and comfort of the institutions that shaped former President Daniel arap Moi. And, if this is the case, why should we be surprised if he "hatched" into a dictator?

What we have witnessed in the last one year is the degeneration of President Kibaki from a reformer to a "Toad King". This process begins with the President becoming insensitive. At this point, he breaks one pledge after another without feeling a thing. And, as he does this, the question in his mind is: Where can you take me? In the case of the MoU for instance, we took him nowhere. The begrudged politicians yapped until the cows came home. Now the President has put his portrait on our currency and we will take him nowhere. The general attitude here is this: If you do not like it, you can sit on a pin!

Numbing his sense to popular voices will definitely degenerate into a state of paranoia. At this point, the President will make one blunder after another. And instead of correcting his mistakes, he will increase his speed in the direction of the wrong. This is where former President Moi was when he introduced "Project Uhuru" to the country. The crowds booed him, his loyal followers in Kanu abandoned him and even his own people questioned his wisdom. But the more we rejected his "project", the more determined he became. There is a lesson for President Kibaki here. He is increasingly becoming like Mr Moi during the 2002 elections. He is not yet paranoid, but his insensitivity could develop into "political blindness". Who knows how low he will have sunk by the 2007 elections? And this is what worries me.

The prediction
Consider a hypothetical situation here. What would happen if President Kibaki decided to run for re-election in 2007 and lost? Would he and his men have the grace to hand over power peacefully? From the way they have behaved in the last one year, I doubt it. And where would that leave the country? At the risk of sounding crazy, I want to suggest the following: If we thought that Mr. Moi would plunge the country into civil strife, he proved us wrong. Narc is the party to plunge the country into civil strife. You just have to listen to the FM stations and the call-in television programmes to see a pattern. From the name of the caller, you can almost predict what they will say and what side of the divide they will take. In a disputed election, such polarity would certainly take ugly proportions.

But there are two possible ways out of this. The first one has to do with the agenda of the second liberation. This process was meant to achieve two things - to remove Mr. Moi from power and replace him with reform-minded leaders. This was done successfully. However, as we are beginning to realise, Mr. Moi was not the problem. The problem was the institutions he inherited from the Kenyatta. To change the leadership without changing the institutions is like treating cancer with Malaraquin. This is partly why the "institutional cancer" in the presidency is beginning to affect President Kibaki.

Putting his portrait on our currency and junking the pre-election MoU are just manifestations of this cancer. This is why the other agenda of the second liberation was institutional reforms. Until this is completed, the second liberation will not have happened. More specifically, this refers to the constitutional review process. And, at this point I would want to address the delegates preparing for Bomas III on January 12, 2004 .

It is my hope that you have had time to reflect on the issues at hand in Bomas III. We are also told that the politicians have spent this long break to bribe you. In my view you should take the bribes and use the money to enjoy your Christmas. You must realise at this point that you are involved in politics and that in this game there is no morality. As such, you should have fun on someone else's account! However, when it comes to voting, you must reject the "bribe givers" and vote for the country.

This is important because of the following reasons. If the second liberation had two phases, the first phase of replacing the leadership had to be carried out by 3.1 million voters. Replacing Mr Moi and his cronies was in my view the easy part. The second phase is the tough one. And this is where you come in. You are only 600 people, and the future of our country depends on you. I have two questions for you at this point. One, as you vote for issues, will you be thinking of your "tribal chief" or your children? In my view, your tribe is your children. If you make a constitution for your children, you will have made a constitutionfor Kenya .

Two, consider the question of the Prime Minister's post. And the question to you is this: If this post had been created before the 2002 elections, do you think President Kibaki would have "trashed" the MoU? Do you think he would have put his portrait on our currency and retained corrupt ministers in his Cabinet? If the answer to these questions is no, then the cure to the "institutional cancer" in the presidency is the creation of this post. Do think about it! The second possible way out of civil strife has to do with the Kikuyu.

Now that the presidency has returned to the "House of Mumbi", some people from the community are convinced that it is there to stay. In my view, this kind of thinking is retrogressive and could result in ethnic animosity. Kikuyus should come to terms with the possibility that they could lose the presidency in 2007. As such, they should do two things: One, "bank" with the other communities. This is important because they cannot survive alone in future. Two, they should disown the Kikuyu ''sharks" in the Kibaki government.

The grim forewarning
Unless they do so, the entire community will be blacklisted simply on account of a few people. In future, a Kikuyu presidential candidate would be rejected because of the misdeeds of isolated people. My submission therefore is: They should not support this regime blindly!

Tags: Civil Strife, Kibaki, Mutahi Ngunyi, Power

This entry was posted on Wednesday, January 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm and is filed under Analysis, English, media. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

2 Responses to "Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi"

1. Politics » Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi Says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

[…] Eyes on Kenya wrote an interesting post today on Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi NgunyiHere's a quick excerptYou must realise at this point that you are involved in politics and that in this game there is no morality…. […]

2. Election » Blog Archive » Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi Says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

[…] Eyes on Kenya wrote an interesting post today on Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi NgunyiHere's a quick excerptAnd like Cassandry, 4 years ago, Nationmedia's Mutahi Ngunyi foresaw the events leading upto 2007 general elections and beyond….And the question to you is this: If this post had been created before the 2002 elections, do you think President Kibaki would have "t rashed" the MoU?…He is increasingly becoming like Mr Moi during the 2002 elections….In a disputed election, such polarity would certainly take ugly proportions…. […]

Kind Regards

Kenneth

1 comment:

Wairimu said...

Alex & Pauline you both sound like you live on moon and others live on stars. The issues Gerald is trying to pass across are vital to the kenyans across all walks of life. Don't be petty and go tribal like most gema.
Kibaki's allies like Moi, Museveni Martha Karua, Noah Wekesa, Tuju , Mwenje, Waititwa Ferdinand, Kalonzo, Kilonzo Mutula ,Michuki, Maina Kamanda,Njenga Karume to name but afew are the ones misadvising him and the spirits of dead KEnyans should haunt him& them not Gerald. Gerald is a democrat who sees what is happening and comes out clearly without biaseness. Of course he is human and bound to act humane.
Now when Alex you claim you know who killed Matheri at this time are you helping us? Go to the police and report the matter because you are well versed with the facts. Why do you fear the same gorvenment that you purport to have confidence in? Now that you have told the whole world you yearn to meet Gerald, our ears& eyes are a lert. I hope it won't be told to us in the same old phrase-He died out of a love triangle- for this is the phrase the kibaki goverment has been identified with-Shame on you Major Hussein Ali-I am a Gema fed up with Kibaki and his allies. You can see what he is lying at the Au summit and still insists that ODM goes to Court. We as KEnyans encourage you brother Gerald, let the whole world know who is who in Kenya. Let Pauline& Ale read Mutahi Ngunyi's article of 2003. I do paste it here for them so that they get a full dose of who Kibaki is.
Wairimu


Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi

While Cassandra foresaw the fall and destruction of the city of Troy (she warned the Trojans about the Trojan Horse, the death of Agamemnon and her own demise), she was unable to do anything to forestall these tragedies…No one believed her. They thought she was running mad.

And like Cassandra, 4 years ago, Nationmedia's Mutahi Ngunyi foresaw the events leading upto 2007 general elections and beyond. If only we would have listened…

Sunday Nation, Dec 2003
Why our second liberation is yet to be completed
By MUTAHI NGUNYI

This week I want to give a suggestion to President Mwai Kibaki: He should fire his speechwriter! If we lived in a "banana republic," these people would have actually been charged with sabotage. What they gave the President to read on Jamhuri Day was flat and shoddy. In fact, his speech on this day sounded like recycled material from the Madaraka Day and Kenyatta Day addresses. And what is worrying is that his speechwriters did not even seem to notice the repetitions. The question we should ask here is why?The answer to this is simple: Maybe they also slept through the speeches! The long and short of things is therefore that someone is being negligent.

Let us now turn to the fact that the President has finally put his portrait on our currency. In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, there would be nothing wrong if he put a family portrait on one of the currency notes.

What we must understand here is that President Kibaki is a human being. He has urges and excesses. To deny him some things is therefore ridiculous. It is like placing a pot full of honey in front of a little boy and expecting him not to dip his finger into the stuff! In other words, our new President is cuddling in the warmth and comfort of the institutions that shaped former President Daniel arap Moi. And, if this is the case, why should we be surprised if he "hatched" into a dictator?

What we have witnessed in the last one year is the degeneration of President Kibaki from a reformer to a "Toad King". This process begins with the President becoming insensitive. At this point, he breaks one pledge after another without feeling a thing. And, as he does this, the question in his mind is: Where can you take me? In the case of the MoU for instance, we took him nowhere. The begrudged politicians yapped until the cows came home. Now the President has put his portrait on our currency and we will take him nowhere. The general attitude here is this: If you do not like it, you can sit on a pin!

Numbing his sense to popular voices will definitely degenerate into a state of paranoia. At this point, the President will make one blunder after another. And instead of correcting his mistakes, he will increase his speed in the direction of the wrong. This is where former President Moi was when he introduced "Project Uhuru" to the country. The crowds booed him, his loyal followers in Kanu abandoned him and even his own people questioned his wisdom. But the more we rejected his "project", the more determined he became. There is a lesson for President Kibaki here. He is increasingly becoming like Mr Moi during the 2002 elections. He is not yet paranoid, but his insensitivity could develop into "political blindness". Who knows how low he will have sunk by the 2007 elections? And this is what worries me.

The prediction
Consider a hypothetical situation here. What would happen if President Kibaki decided to run for re-election in 2007 and lost? Would he and his men have the grace to hand over power peacefully? From the way they have behaved in the last one year, I doubt it. And where would that leave the country? At the risk of sounding crazy, I want to suggest the following: If we thought that Mr. Moi would plunge the country into civil strife, he proved us wrong. Narc is the party to plunge the country into civil strife. You just have to listen to the FM stations and the call-in television programmes to see a pattern. From the name of the caller, you can almost predict what they will say and what side of the divide they will take. In a disputed election, such polarity would certainly take ugly proportions.

But there are two possible ways out of this. The first one has to do with the agenda of the second liberation. This process was meant to achieve two things - to remove Mr. Moi from power and replace him with reform-minded leaders. This was done successfully. However, as we are beginning to realise, Mr. Moi was not the problem. The problem was the institutions he inherited from the Kenyatta. To change the leadership without changing the institutions is like treating cancer with Malaraquin. This is partly why the "institutional cancer" in the presidency is beginning to affect President Kibaki.

Putting his portrait on our currency and junking the pre-election MoU are just manifestations of this cancer. This is why the other agenda of the second liberation was institutional reforms. Until this is completed, the second liberation will not have happened. More specifically, this refers to the constitutional review process. And, at this point I would want to address the delegates preparing for Bomas III on January 12, 2004 .

It is my hope that you have had time to reflect on the issues at hand in Bomas III. We are also told that the politicians have spent this long break to bribe you. In my view you should take the bribes and use the money to enjoy your Christmas. You must realise at this point that you are involved in politics and that in this game there is no morality. As such, you should have fun on someone else's account! However, when it comes to voting, you must reject the "bribe givers" and vote for the country.

This is important because of the following reasons. If the second liberation had two phases, the first phase of replacing the leadership had to be carried out by 3.1 million voters. Replacing Mr Moi and his cronies was in my view the easy part. The second phase is the tough one. And this is where you come in. You are only 600 people, and the future of our country depends on you. I have two questions for you at this point. One, as you vote for issues, will you be thinking of your "tribal chief" or your children? In my view, your tribe is your children. If you make a constitution for your children, you will have made a constitutionfor Kenya .

Two, consider the question of the Prime Minister's post. And the question to you is this: If this post had been created before the 2002 elections, do you think President Kibaki would have "trashed" the MoU? Do you think he would have put his portrait on our currency and retained corrupt ministers in his Cabinet? If the answer to these questions is no, then the cure to the "institutional cancer" in the presidency is the creation of this post. Do think about it! The second possible way out of civil strife has to do with the Kikuyu.

Now that the presidency has returned to the "House of Mumbi", some people from the community are convinced that it is there to stay. In my view, this kind of thinking is retrogressive and could result in ethnic animosity. Kikuyus should come to terms with the possibility that they could lose the presidency in 2007. As such, they should do two things: One, "bank" with the other communities. This is important because they cannot survive alone in future. Two, they should disown the Kikuyu ''sharks" in the Kibaki government.

The grim forewarning
Unless they do so, the entire community will be blacklisted simply on account of a few people. In future, a Kikuyu presidential candidate would be rejected because of the misdeeds of isolated people. My submission therefore is: They should not support this regime blindly!

Tags: Civil Strife, Kibaki, Mutahi Ngunyi, Power

This entry was posted on Wednesday, January 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm and is filed under Analysis, English, media. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

2 Responses to "Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi"

1. Politics » Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi Says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

[…] Eyes on Kenya wrote an interesting post today on Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi NgunyiHere's a quick excerptYou must realise at this point that you are involved in politics and that in this game there is no morality…. […]

2. Election » Blog Archive » Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi Ngunyi Says:
January 16th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

[…] Eyes on Kenya wrote an interesting post today on Cassandra: "Nation's" Mutahi NgunyiHere's a quick excerptAnd like Cassandry, 4 years ago, Nationmedia's Mutahi Ngunyi foresaw the events leading upto 2007 general elections and beyond….And the question to you is this: If this post had been created before the 2002 elections, do you think President Kibaki would have "t rashed" the MoU?…He is increasingly becoming like Mr Moi during the 2002 elections….In a disputed election, such polarity would certainly take ugly proportions…. […]


Kind Regards

Kenneth